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Rain won’t spoil Glastonbury, but booking fees might

Jumping in a muddy puddle

Resale of Glastonbury tickets starts today. But how much do they cost? The answer is almost definitely ‘more than the advertised price’ thanks to extra booking fees. How can festival ticket sellers justify it?

I’m a big fan of summer festivals, even when it pours with rain. But the cost of going to the likes of Glastonbury, Reading or Bestival can all add up. Transport, programmes, food – and if you aren’t used to the outdoors life, you’ll probably have to fork out for a tent and some wellies too.

What’s more, the ticket fees are getting more and more bizarre each year. If you want the privilege of buying a ticket from one of the official sellers or resellers, ‘admin charges’ and ‘booking fees’ will be added to your ticket.

Festival ticket costs – I’ve done the maths

My £170 ticket for this year’s Latitude Festival actually cost £186.25 through Seetickets. That’s after factoring in a ‘booking fee’ of £7, a separate £5.25 ‘transaction fee’ and the not-quite-compulsory-but-automatically-added ‘refund protection’ for £4.

Glastonbury tickets will set you back £195, but the booking fees will take the total to £200, and postage and packaging is £4.95 per ticket. If you want to buy Bestival tickets, you need to budget a whopping £10 on top of the actual ticket price. And most vendors will charge double the booking fee for two tickets, triple for three, etc.

Surcharges vs booking fees

We’ve been exposing unfair card surcharges recently, and rightly so – we can see the discrepancy between how much a company charges and how much they actually pay to the banks for a card transaction. With your help we’ve been putting pressure on Consumer Minister, Ed Davey MP, to get unfair surcharges banned.

But a booking fee is a bit different, because it’s harder to work out whether it’s reasonable. Do they really do a fiver’s worth of work for each ticket they flog?

If I paid someone to sit in a room taking cheques from eager festival-goers and stuffing tickets into envelopes it’d cost me less in wages than £5 a ticket. So why does it cost more through a streamlined, automated online service?

It’s all part of the service

I’m not expecting a free service, but the ticket sellers aren’t really providing a service to me – they’re providing one to the organisers. They’re making them money by distributing their tickets. Surely it makes more sense for the costs to be passed on via the organisers (and a higher upfront ticket price) than for them to slap a £5 charge on the privilege of giving them £170?

It surprises me more as festival organisers are increasingly keen to appear ethical, green, open and honest – almost as if they’re not run by companies trying to make a profit! So here’s my two-step plan to make the whole transaction even more ethical:

  • Ticket sellers (and resellers) should stop charging excessive ‘booking’, ‘admin’ and ‘transaction’ fees.
  • Festival organisers should factor in the cost of ticket sales when setting their prices.

What do you think? Are booking fees an acceptable extra, or should ticket booking all be part of the service, and therefore the ticket price? Luckily for you, Which Conversation is an all-inclusive package, so it won’t cost you anything to leave a comment below.

Comments
Member

Whats extra about a booking fee ? Can you get a ticket without it ?
What’s extra about a postage charge per ticket – can you collect them instead ?

If the answer is no then they are not extras but part of the ticket price and should be included in the headline price.

Its like going into a store, buying a washing machine and being charged for the packaging it comes in, a charge for getting it out of the storage area and into the shop and a charge fro processing your order.

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Sam Tana says:
22 April 2011

Booking fees for tickets are only acceptable if:

1) There is a reasonable, alternative way of buying (face-to-face, using cash) which avoids the booking fee and delivery charge
2) The booking fee is charged per ticket, rather than per transaction
3) The fee is not excessive – a max of 2% of the ticket face value price.
4) The fee is charged by an agent, not the venue itself.

Member

rarar is spot on.
id go even further, if the tickets cannot be purchased without the booking fee, then its clear misrepresentation at the point of sale and as such, can be prevented quickly and easily by trading standards using the law!

advertising a false price would also breach advertising standards.

i once had one **** of an argument with a high st company, who uses a “catalogue” in their store, over buying a tumble dryer (had to use them we got vouchers)
the price of the item did not include the compulsary delivery charge.
i asked where i could pick the item up myself and was told it was not possible. i asked where then could i purchase the item for the advertised price, the answer of course was nowhere.
after threatening to get trading standards involved for misrepresentation and false advertising, i was told a concession could be made and the item could be delivered on their stock van to my local branch, where i could now pick it up without paying the compulsary delivery charge.

if trading standards applies the law, there would be no need for quangos, regulators, watchdogs, etc.

Member

frugal ways – great story! Although it’s a shame you had to make such a fuss to get something at the advertised price!

Can you buy tickets without the booking fees? That’s one of my big unanswered questions at the moment. Of course as we haven’t done a full Which? investigation into it (yet?) I don’t want to say that it’s impossible. It is at least extremely difficult.

Would be really interested to hear from anyone who has managed to buy tickets without a booking fee, or perhaps from any festivals where the price advertised is the price you pay! Has anyone managed this? I’ll be asking some of the festival organisers to come and comment on this convo, so let’s see what they have to say.

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Disgruntled Mcr says:
18 April 2011

For me, the most irritating example of this kind of practice is Ticketmaster who think it is acceptable to charge me a fee if I print my own ticket at home!!! I cannot believe is sort of practice is legal.

Member

I agree Disgruntled, there seems to be a few big sellers that get away with charging lots of extra fees.

I just bought Lovebox tickets and they were £53 each, Ticketmaster broke down the price as £48.50 for the Ticket and £4.50 on Fees, but then the extra £2.25 I had to pay to have them delivered wasn’t included. I’d like to know what these ‘fees’ are and why they’re not included in the upfront cost nor cover all costs like postage too.

It doesn’t all seem to be so complicated though, buying tickets for Winterwell festival the payment fee was only £1.75 which although is a lot more than it really costs to process a debit card payment does seem more reasonable than the mandatory £4, £5 or now even £6 (Ryanair) that some companies charge.

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Steve Kelly says:
18 April 2011

I Totally agree – and about time someone spoke out about this.
I’m sure no-one minds paying a good price to see a good performance as long as the bulk of the money goes to the Artist and Venue. But paying a large percentage in so called ‘fees’ to a global corporation put absolutely nothing into the industry is not on.
I will now never buy any ticket via Ticketmaster or SeeTickets and now go to smaller venues and pay a couple of quid in booking fees.
Best thing is … performances in small venues are ALWAYS better than seeing the big boys on a video screen!

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Stephen Loughins says:
18 April 2011

Its time this was stopped. I recently bought 2 tickets for a concert in Glasgow. £55 each + 2 * £6.60 Card Handling Fee + £3.25 postage. Note this was NOT a booking fee but a card ‘handling’ fee. I wrote to them but they palmed me off and didn’t answer my query about the price of postage.

I know if they put the charges in the price you’ll end up paying the same – but at least you won’t feel ripped off.

Also strikes me as strange how the bigger venues charge the bigger prices

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Richard says:
18 April 2011

I totally agree that these charges are annoying and in some cases a blatant way of making more profit. I recently used my mobile phone to pay for parking at the local station as I did not have enough change for the meter and they slapped on an extra charge for the privilege of me making a 2 minute phone call to an answering machine. Surely this method means they