Why I don’t consent to the census

Generally for a census, but not the fine.

Did you know though that not changing your address on your driving license also carries a fine of £1000?

There are quite a few around like this and so I would just brush it under the carpet, unless you are planning to stay a few years in your current place

The data the census collects is generally info that all your insurance, mortgage, rentals, employers etc already have. Just because the government wants this info doesn’t mean that it’s any less / more safe.

They’ll use it as a big stick to beat us with though, thats for sure 🙂

Your full name’s already in the system, As is Your age & sex.

I reckon You tell FaceBook.Com more about Your life & sex life, Than You’ll be asked in this census :/

We need to record wheather physically sick or mentally sick, disabled, or both, etc, This helps see how many people may relie on The NHS or those who can afford or want to go private.

More people may have gone to The Denist when it was under NHS, Where less go now because its privately funded & Less NHS Denist’s around.

We all hate being forced or made or even asked/told to do something we fill isn’t needed, But The Census & Voting In Elections Is an Right & We should never be allowed to back out of that right.

Google, Sainsburys, Tesco, & Loads more only want our information for selling us some stuff we might not want or need,

Were collecting information about the Uk people & What we do & don’t do every 10 years or so, Is for help improving public & private services, NHS, Police, Social Services, Traveling, Trains, & More.

Some people aren’t religous & Some believe if enough people believe or joke about an religion, It has to be accepted as an religion & Some want Jedi to become an recgnozied relegion for what ever reason, But most people don’t take religion seriously or as an serious question in The Census,

Were I hope those being asked about health, housing, schooling, wages, human rights, & So on answer honstely & fairly.

Your only asked every 10 years or so, Stop moaning, Were Compaines ask You nearl every day,week, month, year, questions & personal questions.

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If some people think its worth an £1000.00p fine or prison, All just because of some questions & personal questions every 10 years,

Then You’ve either got to much money on Your hands Or You think the whole worlds spying on You, In either case You may need help mentally & An life.

If someone wanted to spy on You & gather all the information together & Use the information about You in an good way or bad way or both,

They certainly wouldn’t use an census every 10 years, They’d use many different platform/s, including spying & Even then not spying.

This is The Uk peoples Right & Chance to express themselves & answer the questions honestly to help The Uk change & get better services & What The Uk people are worried about,

Without us all being worried about being spyed on, Its about helping as many people as possible & Not focusing on person or family, All our views count & Need recording, Or otherwise were never know if our thoughts,views,opinions,worries,concerns, were dealt with or ignored over the 10 years, Or if things got better,worse, or stayed the same.

We need to record progress as The Uk people & Not as one person or family, Or small group.

I have had a quick look at the form and I’m quite happy to provide the information requested. I am glad that I only have to complete 10 of the 32 pages.

I am happy to help.

The alternative is that as the population changes over time the government is forever trying to catch up based on demand that is already occurring, rather than have any ability to plan for it.

If you are part of the aging population, wouldn’t you like to at least give the government a chance to prepare for you as part of that aging population (increase the number of geriatric medical services, care homes, community support)? The alternative is that you need the services and realise that because you didn’t help the government count correctly, they didn’t provide enough.

If all the chronically ill/disabled people ripped up their forms, would you be surprised to find out that the government didn’t provide services for them since they didn’t know there were any?

If you don’t complete the census, you lose the moral right to complain about the government’s priorities.

Hmmm

Last time we had a census we had census people coming round door to door from the local council to find out why your census was not returned. I chatted to the woman who came to my door (I had forgotten to fill it out as other concerns had intervened). She was there to give any help required – for those who had not bothered to phone the council for help..

I am in favour of the £1000 fine – you are required to fill it in whether you like it or not – just like having a driving license and insurance if you have a car. You live here you fill it out.

I could not see any reason NOT to fill it out – My only ‘problem” is the religious/ethnic questions – I am Jewish ethnically and religiously – other than that – it is a useful set of information to help planning for the future. Hopefully it will also help in tracking illegal immigrants and other migrants as our borders are nowhere near secure enough.
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I object to it mostly on the grounds that an arms company is running it, as a pacifist it pains me to contemplate boosting their profits.

There is a way of costing them money though, fill it in, but remove all the serial number/barcodes etc and fill in the form upside down, tick outside the tick boxes etc, it will have to be sorted by hand and so will cost more.

You will be counted and so benefit your local community in a small way possibly but you will be contributing less to a multinational murderer.

I suggest you add a note expressing why you have done this as well.
Add something to the religion box, Jedi was funny but anything you believe strongly in, if enough people feel the same way it has to be recognised as a religion!

The census is an absurd waste of money.
All this information is available probably ten times over to the Government if they collate what they have already in their vast but separate empires.
I expect they could buy better information from the supermarkets.
Clearly people here illegally will not complete the information.
If it is meant to be used for planning it is a joke.
We might as well all be micro chipped like dogs or cattle.
Think of all the alternative uses of £500m of our money. Perhaps we could give some to world citizens who need it more than we do.

No not at all, because all the parties are as bad as each other, they’re all totally out of touch with ‘normal’ people, ‘normal’ families who can’t afford big 2 big swanky cars for each parent, 3 holidays abroad a year etc, the country is run by the elite for the elite. and the elite have private healthcare and private schooling… anyway, this is getting off course…..

Goodness me! What a lot of fuss about answering a few simple questions, none of which are seriously personal. I bet half the people making all this todo, have voluntarily given far more information about themselves and their friends and relations, world wide on the internet in one form or another.

you say you feel like a rebellious teenager..surely not…..What about being a rebelling adult?

I have completed it. I share concerns about data security but as others have pointed out simply going online destroys your personal security. Data mining is big business and I am horrified at the amount of personal information you can gather online on all kinds of people without paying a penny – and a lot more if you subscribe to one of these data mining sites.

How many of you have a loyalty card? Why do they do these? They collate the data on what you buy, where you shop etc and keep in it a file all about you. It’s got nothing to do with rewarding you for your loyalty 🙂

I’m a family historian – I know the efforts people went to to get the 1911 census released early – they refused to do it and they did NOT promise they would keep that one locked for 100 years. So I doubt they will consider releasing this one early. But your descendents will bless you for completing it carefully and thoroughly – I’m fairly miffed I can’t add comments for my yet to be born relatives online. And the family history community is tending to do it online and keep the actual form as a historical document to keep and pass on.

I subscribe to Which? to help me negotiate the unrestrained greed of our global economy, but sometimes I forget that in the end, it is a magazine for the sole purpose of consumerism . But I did expect better than implied mockery of those whose love of the planet we’re wrecking, to produce those consumer goods, runs deep to the point of spirituality. I myself don’t like the word “witch”, but plenty do; still, the Pagan Federation has been negotiating since the last census to get both our numbers and our identities recognized. You’ll see a lot more than 7,000 this time who sign up as “Pagan – Witch”, “Pagan – Druid”, or just “Pagan”.

While of course only a relatively small number of those who wrote in “Jedi” actually meant it, in my view even they have a more worthy religion than those who worship only things and money.

I personally think whether it is just a few questions or not, that it goes against my rights. This has nothing to do with traffic, city transportation, voting, etc etc. Also, if this is a way to draw statistic numbers when they do their polls when making decisions in city or government meetings, just not so. This seems like a socialist thing to do! This is more for the Government to keep track of everything you do, where ever you go. Where is the freedom in our privacy now?! Government should not have a right to keep tabs on you in such manner. This should be your freedom of choice, if not, where is the democracy in that?! Like seriously…enough now! Getting fined because you decided not to give you information, has gone out of hand now. To think these countries pick on the socialists!! Wow! I am not going over board, just making a fare practical point!

Almost every country in the world has a census and few countries are as tolerant of failure to comply as the uk. People expect services to be provided – hospitals, doctors, schools, refuse collection, recreation grounds, to name but a few, but they want to pretend they are not there and don’t want to provide information. How daft is that?
They are protected to a ludicrous extent – information is not even shared with local authorities to identify council tax dodgers.
I could provide a long and reasoned argument, but, really, this is all it comes down to. People will take everything that’s going, but they don’t want to do their bit to help the community!

Hahaha JEDI MIND TRICKS.. Absolute classic. Although the government did say that if enough people claimed to be of the Jedi Religion, the Government would officially acknowledge it as a Religion, and as a result would’ve been obligated to allow tax breaks/benefits to that particular religion and therefore its people. However, even though the target number of people was reached, the Government did not honour their promissory note!

As a ‘democracy’ we have freedoms but they can only be maintained if we as, as individuals accept the responsibilities that enable us to keep those freedoms. The census is a statistics gathering exercise and it is not used as a means of using personal information against those who declare it. The resulting analysis will let the planners and the rest of us know the proportions of the population that have a certain characteristic. For example, how many properties have 2 bedrooms or 3 bedrooms etc. and how many are overcrowded but the individual properties are not identified at the current time. The details will only be released after 100 years. The completion of this census is a responsibility to the community as in fact is voting. We should have the same system as Australia in that respect where those who do not vote are penalised. As members of the club of U.K. residents these are basic duties to each other.

The only thing you a required to fill out on the form is how many people live in the house”that is it”they do not need anymore info about you and why would you give up your persona l details so easy???? as for the £1000 fine those that pay it are”idiots” it is all a big con job the same goes for tv licence,bedroom tax,parking ticket fines,council tax you are not required to pay for any of these without your consent,look up “Common/civil law”

people need to wake up