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Could you go without Google? Huawei has

The launch of Huawei’s latest phones this week is a reminder of how dependent we have become on Google. Would life really be difficult without it?

Huawei launched its latest phones, the Mate 30 and the Mate 30 Pro, in Munich on Thursday and, as expected, they’re minus a very important thing: Google.

The new phones run a version of Android called AOSP – Android Open Source Project – which is the open-source version that anyone can download and install on a device.

AOSP however, doesn’t have Google’s apps and services: if you want those, you have to license them from Google.

Life without Google

Google – and other American companies – were banned from doing business with Huawei earlier this year.

So what does that mean in practice? The most obvious thing is that these new phones don’t have the usual Google apps you’d expect on an Android phone: there’s no Play Store, no Google Maps, no YouTube, no Google Pay, no Drive, no Assistant… you get the drift. 

There are plenty of alternative apps: DuckDuckGo is a much less intrusive search engine, or you could use Microsoft’s Bing.

Waze and Here are very decent map applications, I think Edge and Firefox are both excellent on Android, and Amazon’s Fire tablets also seem to get by fine without Google.

But you do start running into issues quite quickly. Much of the web is predicated on access to Google services: many websites have Google maps embedded, for example, while content providers upload videos to YouTube.

Switching over

I was a Windows Phone user for many years, only coming over to Android once it became clear that the platform was not going to survive.

One reason I finally switched away was because it became increasingly difficult to use without access to Google services.

There was no YouTube app for Windows Phone, and a spat between Google and Microsoft back in 2013 that meant the Windows Phone browser couldn’t access Google Maps, for example.

Other apps were AWOL in the Windows Store, too. Windows Phone users at best had third-party apps from independent developers for big services like Instagram and YouTube that often didn’t work well or broke after updates.

That’s a glimpse of what using the new Huawei phones might be like. More importantly, though, many Android apps rely on Google’s under-the-hood services such as location, updates, notifications and casting. 

Google has increasingly been bringing Android code under its proprietary umbrella, including the core functions called Google Mobile Services (GMS) that underpin the seamless functionality of apps by providing the links between the operating system and the apps themselves.

Some apps just won’t work

While some apps will probably be OK, others simply won’t work without GMS. That means developers will have to rewrite their apps for the Huawei app store.

It’s hard to know how many will do that, but given the experience of Windows Phone, which died partly because developers didn’t rewrite their apps for the platform, I’m not optimistic.

What happens with Huawei remains to be seen, but what I’m interested in is a thought experiment: would you use a phone without Google services?

Your banking app might not be available, nor things like Netflix and the iPlayer. And are you comfortable with how much Google underpins how we use mobile devices and the web?

I have broadly made my peace with Google. My mobile is Android (it’s actually a Huawei), although I use Outlook and Edge on my Android devices rather than Gmail and Chrome, and I block third-party cookies.

But those are symbolic gestures rather than particularly effective ones: I use Google Pay everywhere, and I use Google smarthome devices to control my lights, music, heating and doorbell.

I don’t think I could give up Google – could you?

Comments

Some of us already use our ‘phones without Google. Kate; Apple users are more than happy with alternatives such as DD Go and Apple Maps. And on the desktop I’ve never got Google Earth to work that well.

Ditto. For the life I lead, Google is fairly irrelevant and I certainly would not miss it, but being made compulsorily unavailable is a different question.

Well, I suspect quoting a single figure for Europe conceals some pretty significant differences. But obviously Android users face a choice: continue to use a denuded system, where the entire purpose is to monetise the user, often without their consent or switch to iOS, which runs arguably the most secure and private OS and on equipment backed by the world’s largest tech company, which also publishes the six-year warranty rights on its website.

DerekP says:
22 September 2019

I’m a big fan of YouTube and gmail, so those hook me into Google services.

But I don’t necessarily need to install them on all my devices.

On most Android phones there is not much chance of getting by without Google. On other devices – including iPhones – it is nice that users can choose not to use Google services if they don’t want to.

I don’t have a smartphone but I don’t have Google anything on my Linux system –that is except FF which uses a whole host of Google trackers that call themselves “protection” of one sort or another , that’s why I use Waterfox but even there I had to go into -about:config to kill some that still existed.
I use FF to access Which ? as Waterfox blocks jscripts etc via my blockers .

It wasn’t easy not installing enticing apps that report back to Google — I use -Open Street Map for example .
Although I don’t always use it I agree with using search engine Duck Duck Go but not Bing .
Huawei have just introduced their new top model which is an Open Source system ,where Russia helped in the design .
All this anti Huawei spying propaganda is just that —Propaganda by America First economic policies –Huawei has told Donald they will even supply the Patents to him if required –er — no thanks !
Lets get real, nobody not even BT has found any spying going on in their equipment , on the other hand both types of mobile phones in the west are open to the NSA .

I get on fine without using anything to do with Google on my old iPhone. I did install the Google Maps app years ago when Apple was having a problem with its own app, but switched back to Apple when the problem was fixed.

I’m very used to Google just like I’m very used to Windows on my computer and at work. I don’t to have something on my smart phone, something else at home, and something else again at work.

Kate: apologies for hijacking this topic but this is important: If anyone uses Apple Macs, DO NOT download the latest Google Chrome update.

It apparently can stop Macs booting up.