Scam watch: Amazon hacker’s £4k con

…but two years old – at least.

Amazon is far from infallible just because its trying for the US Military secure cloud.

Yes Derek and thats why the US government has a lot of trouble believing Amazon/Microsoft and others —they haven’t proved its an “actuality “. Public cloud -remember all the hype ? has been hacked .

Duncan you just posted “Derek you asked -is it worthwhile ?” – I don’t recollect doing so today, so that’s another example of you putting words into the mouths of other posters, just as Ian has been complaining about.

If you want to use W?C as a soapbox, that’s fine by me, but please could you refrain from this style of posting, unless, of course, you are deliberately setting out to annoy other posters.

I know you may just be using it as kind of conversational device, but, if you have a compelling and interesting story to tell, you ought not to need such contrived ripostes as a means to further each Convo.

If you read the story from your link, Duncan, you will see that is was not, in fact, Amazon who was hacked at all.

Words into mouth ? ask Ian when he does that to me -makes up his mind how I think and posts it

Please post each example where I have done that, Duncan. I have already posted three examples of you doing about me and I’ve seen yet another this morning.

Ohh, Duncan, – do you ever wake up in the morning and think . . . I’ll find something positive to write about today? You must pass over hundreds of stories until you find something really pessimistic which you then embellish with dire threats to our health service or our diet. Look, no ‘deal’ can be imposed on the UK against our will; we are not leaving the EU just to jump into the arms of the USA, Trump or no Trump. At this stage of my life, at least 80% of it having probably already elapsed, I see no point in worrying about these things. I try to look on the bright side.

On a practical point, being in the EU we have to let foreign companies without a base in the UK compete for our major goods and services contracts. After we have left we can make our own rules on who will be allowed to compete. Naturally, the scope will be widened to include countries that at the moment do not have an automatic right to compete but we can still exclude them from contracts where the national interest justifies it. And with regard to the NHS, there will be no automatic right for foreign firms to compete for contracts and it will not be compulsory for contracts to be put out to tender unless the government so decides. So if there is no tendering there will be no competing. Let’s hope for the best in the future.

I am actually an optimistic person otherwise I would have ended my life long ago John.
I am not all “doom and gloom ” but I do care deeply for the human race and I am willing to listen to positive news as long as it applies to the UK public .
On your point on the NHS have a read of my reply to Gerald,s condemnation of it on the other convo the US Democrats actually agree with me and want to make Medicare like the NHS while the US Ambassador want us to buy F35,s instead of using the money on the NHS .

Isn’t saying ‘I do care deeply for the human race’ a bit like saying ‘I do care deeply about Pluto’s demotion’? Objective and far enough away not to worry about too much.

You see, from my perspective, the Human Race brings just about everything on itself. It’s adept at poisoning the planet’s atmosphere, it’s rapacious, predatory, utterly selfish and generally not a terribly good advert for the planet or the species. If a level 2 civilisation were to discover us at some point, and demanded a case be made for the continuation of the Human Race I’d be hard put to find something positive to say.

I fact, I can’t see how anyone can ‘care deeply’ about the Human Race. I care deeply about my family. I care about friends. I don’t care about anything as remote or as sprawling as woodworm, Trypanosomiasis, Babesia bovis or Wildebeest migrations, although each might hold a passing interest in and of itself.

Yes, I did read your comment, Duncan. I think the US Democrats are onto a winner if they want the American health system to emulate our NHS which is widely regarded as a model – if only we could make it more efficient and economical but still achieve clinical excellence.

But this Conversation is about how we as individuals can plan for the help and care we might need in our later lives and how we can fund it.

I have to admit that my time for thinking about the rest of the world is over. My priorities right now are to plan for the possibility that we shall have to stop living at home and go into some form of residential care. It will largely depend on what condition we are in at the time and whether nursing is necessary; that would worry me more than the cost of a place in a care home.

While I might have given up thinking about the rest of the world, i.e. its people and politics, I do try to do my bit for the planet.

You only live once in each existence malcolm but as its the only reality that you know of at present then most people think that way, helped on by commercial factors- “live for the Day ” -think not of tomorrow -spend-spend-spend.
Treat yourself -why worry get into debt .
But some ,like me realise existence isnt as simple as that unless you class yourself as no better than a single cell that splits and reproduces .
The problem is we now live in a “no fear ” philosophy country that is centered in your body and not anything beyond it which presents major psychological problems in life .
When I ask those what then when you die ? they dont want to talk about it as it conflicts with their dogma.