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Should young drivers spend a year learning?

How long should new drivers spend behind the wheel before taking their driving test? The Association of British Insurers thinks it should be a minimum of 12 months.

The Association of British Insurers (ABI) also wants to see a ban on learners taking intensive driving courses as the sole means of learning to drive. And it’s recommending lowering the age at which young people can start learning to drive to 16 and a half.

‘Graduated’ driver licensing is another suggestion, which is used in countries such as the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. This would mean limiting the number of passengers that a young driver can carry in the first six months after passing their driving test. The reason? There’s a significantly increased crash risk when young passengers are carried in the car.

The ABI’s radical proposals don’t stop there. It also wants restrictions on night-time driving for the first six months after passing the test. New drivers would be banned from driving between 11pm at night and 4am, unless they are driving to work or education.

Also in the first six months, the ABI would like to see an effective complete alcohol ban, with a near-zero limit (which would still allow you to use mouthwash, for example).

Cheaper car insurance?

The ABI thinks these measures will reduce the high crash risk that young drivers face. In the UK, it says that one in three deaths on our roads is a person aged under 25. An 18 year old driver is apparently more than three times as likely to be involved in a crash than a driver 30 years older. It’s this that’s contributing to the car insurance costs that are spiralling out of control for young drivers

Any measures that increase safety are obviously something we should welcome, and I’ve always thought that there’s no substitute for experience in improving driver skill and awareness.

Whether the 12-month learning period will do this is another question. Surely it would be better to make learners spend a minimum number of hours behind the wheel with an official instructor, as happens in many other countries?

Of course, something really has to be done to lower insurance premiums for younger drivers. As it is, we risk losing a whole generation of younger drivers who are currently priced out by sky-high insurance costs. If these measures really can cut insurance bills, then it’s definitely something I’d welcome.

So do you think it makes sense to insist that new drivers spend 12 months learning to drive? And what about the idea of lowering the age drivers can learn to 16 and a half?

Comments
Member

Insurance costs reflect the risk, so anything that reduces the risk of new drivers having an accident is good. So I cannot see how reducing the age to 161/2 would be other than counter-productive. More comprehensive training will help – pass plus helped my children and reduced their premiums. Monitoring boxes seem effective in checking driving habits and times, and reduce premiums for better driving. All this is fine for responsible drivers but a real problem is those others who simply do not get insured and will by-pass any system until caught. How do you penalise them – fines are less than their premium, scrapping their car leaves them free to get another, driving ban gets ignored. Would they respond if forced to pay for, and take, a driver-training course in addition to the penalty imposed? Who could provide it?

Member

Have to add – The nearest I’ve ever come close to causing an accident was as a teenage when driving three friends who were encouraging me to go faster. As I turned a corner at speed – the car tipped onto two wheels. I didn’t roll over but nearly did -since then – some 65 years – I’ve driven safely.

The biggest problem is not “young drivers” as such – but irresponsible drivers. Especially uninsured irresponsible drivers. There should be a better way of ensuring uninsured drivers do not drive on the road again. An electronic tag that detects them on the road? Or imprisonment on first offence that includes regular enforced trips to road crashes where they have to clear up the mess including body parts. Such experiences have a very sobering effect on offenders.

Member
Kathy says:
6 October 2012

It’s a good idea, after all I’ve learnt so much more since passing my test it scares me for my daughters sake because yes irresponsible drivers are a danger but so are inexperienced ones. It takes experience and patience to become a good driver and those intensive courses are really only teaching you to pass the test, not to be a long term responsible driver.

Member

I am not sure that it is age that matters but the ability to act responsibly. Some will have this when they are 16 but it is fairly obvious that some who have passed the existing test have not developed sufficient responsibility. I do think the driving test should cover rather more than it does at present.

I do not understand why ABI wants restrictions on night-time driving for newly qualified drivers.

Member

The problem with all these ideas to increase learning and cost for young drivers is that you’re doing it at the expense of the sensible, well driving, youngster.

What happens to the 17 year old driver who’s a natural? Do they have to keep paying twenty something pound a lesson for an entire year when they don’t need to learn any more?

In my experience, the real learning starts when you don’t have the safety net of an instructor with their own pedals. Responsible drivers learn that quickly, others do not.

Perhaps we could have a harder driving test put into place, for ALL drivers, where they must retake a subsidised test every 5 years?

Member

Why should a driver who has never had an accident in his life – nor ever committed a traffic offence in his life – driving daily in London for over 60 years have to take a test every 5 years??

Surely it makes far far more sense to make every single driver of any age who has an accident or commits a traffic offence to take the driving test again?

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Richard's mobile says:
13 October 2012

It doesn’t need to take a year before a young person can drive on their own but we do need a more structured training programme. Start with learning about the car and its controls in a “closed circuit” training centre at 16 1/2. How to change a tyre. Why tyre tread is important. Checking oil and water levels. What it feels like to stop dead from 10mph (in a full safety harness and neck brace of course!). Then a certain number of hours with a qualified instructor plus, if possible, supervised experience development. The stage one test would come at six months (aged 17) allowing limited unsupervised driving, e.g. no motorways, not between 10pm and 6am unless for work or education, only one passenger. Six months with further training including night driving, motorway driving and more closed circuit experience, e.g. skip pans. Then the final “full” test.

Member

“Should young drivers spend a year learning?”
Some do and even when they eventually pass their test they’re still not very good at it.
But generally speaking I would agree there is no subsitute for experience. That’s why older drivers proportionally have fewer accidents and pay lower insurance premiums.
Perhaps “accelerated” supervised experience for young drivers might not be such a bad thing. I don’t really know if it would improve matters but I doubt it would make matters worse.
Perhaps a trial scheme?

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Maureen - Thames Valley says:
2 April 2013

‘Should young drivers spend a year learning’, I think this would cost too much in financial terms
paid for most probably by their parents whom no doubt are hit by many other costs of being
a parent of a teenager and those affording such, would not matter in the least and those pampered
with well off parents would be the racers of tomorrow anyway, after all going at such speeds cost money and most working class or out of work cannot afford the price of petrol easily but live in areas
that do not have good public transport and driving increases their chances of finding work.
I feel lowering the age would not help at all and in fact increasing the age may well improve
things, as maturity would help.
As a driver for 40+ years, I have observed a decline in respect towards other road users generally from other motorists and motoring skills generally declined along side this, its as if the motorist
of today has declared himself as king of the road pushing off the cyclist or horseman and pedestrian. Care for another has gone in many part of our life and just shows up more on
the road as to blame one section of society is very wrong because we all have played
a part at arriving where we are without realizing.
However, when a motorist is behind me flashing his lights and hooting his horn because
he wants me to drive faster in a 30 or 40 mph zone and making me feel uncomfortable,
its not easy for the younger driver under pressure to ignore, it takes years of experience
and determination that older more experienced driver has and whats missing is the local
police being about to catch the number plate of the offender putting pressure on others
and jeopardizing lives when they overtake at dangerous speeds.
These are the sorts that do not have a right to be on the roads.
Do we want to close doors on those young people seeking work or educational opportunities,
no we don’t but we do need to clamp down on, those whom cause accidents by reckless speeding pushed on by their companions or
drink driving and attitude towards this is crucial and when offenders are caught they need
to loose their driving license for a minimum period and re-offenders for good.
If they want to do better in the future by being counted as a motorist then they must
earn the respect or leave it alone altogether.

Member

Hi, I see one or two people have touched on the subject of the price to learning to drive and obviously the longer it takes the more it will cost.
My words to my daughter when she started learning was ‘only apply for the test when you feel your ready’ and to cut a long story short she passes her test at the first attempt after completing some 86 hours of driving lessons.
That to me is an above average number of hours needed but feel she was better prepared for driving on our busy road systems and appears to me to be a very competent and safe driver. (cannot put a price on that)
So I see experience behind the wheel as the key to reducing accidents in the younger driver age group and lets not put a price against this learning regardless of how long it takes an individual.
Now to that subject of re-sitting your driving test every so often.
It would be great news for the Driving Instructor Industry but I feel it a little unnecessary unless you’ve been involved in a road traffic accident (fault only) or a number of other offences related to driving such as speeding and so on.
It would not bother me to resit my driving test and from that I would become more aware of errors that I have in my style of driving which I could work on correcting and that would improve my chances of not causing a road traffic incident….
So a Big Yes to spending more time behind the wheel with a qualified Driving Instructor before being allowed to take a driving test……….it’s good to know your sons and daughters are competent on the road.