5 March 2012 / Money

Going into debt for food – how has the recession affected you?

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From charity shopping to staying in, our new report highlights how people are dealing with the effects of the recession. One stat jumped out at me – one in five people have recently gone in debt to pay for food.

The recession’s biting some harder than others. A member of my family has just been made redundant, so she immediately switched to a supermarket ‘basic’ range rather than buying branded food.

That’s quite a small change, but our first Consumers 2012 report on consumer spending habits found that some Brits are having to take even more drastic measures just to get by.

Going in to debt for food

Perhaps the most surprising result – and the one that’s got everyone talking – is that a fifth of the 2,000 people we surveyed had gone in to debt to pay for everyday essentials like food.

It’s awful that some are in this position, and it shows just how many on the lowest incomes are being affected by the economic downturn. But it’s not just those at the bottom of the pile who are struggling. Less than half the people we surveyed said that they were coping on their current income.

For some the downturn had served as a ‘reality check’ on their spending – giving them that extra nudge to reassess their finances and start saving.

Moneysaving tips

So what are people cutting back on to save money? Some of the most common changes mentioned were:

Socialising at home rather than going to the pub
Using the internet to compare prices
Shopping around for groceries to get the best deal
And buying things from second hand shops or charity shops.

Saving cash by socialising at home rather than going out is something I’ve always been keen on. I sometimes throw parties because it’s a nice, cheap way to get all of my friends together. Rather than asking my mates to fork out on a restaurant meal for my birthday, I’d prefer them to do something cheap or free – as long as it’s not too annoying for my neighbours.

Also high on my list of moneysaving behaviour is shopping in charity shops. My family bought each other charity shop presents (with a limit of £5) for Christmas and unearthed some fantastic gifts – I was very happy with my DVD box set of the Chronicles of Narnia.

I’m also a big fan of making things instead of buying directly from the shop (we’re a big fan of baking cupcakes in the Which? digital team!) mostly because we enjoy one-upping the previous person’s batch. But when I see how expensive it is to buy bakery cakes for the whole team, I realise it has moneysaving benefits too!

So have you noticed the impact of the recession on your wallet? Have you changed your spending habits to help get you through the economic downturn?

Comments

William says:

6 March 2012

This recession hasn’t really affected my spending, being on the wrong end of a CSA judgement for the previous 10 years I’ve had to live like a hermit anyway. Just glad the maintenance payments stopped (my ex kicked our daughter out) when I was made redundant 18 months ago. I feel sorry for all those who have to have all mod cons and haven’t managed to save a penny (although having saved, apparently I don’t get benefits, supposedly cos I’m responsible with money, grrr). People look at me funny when they find out I don’t have a mobile, or drink or smoke.

lessismore says:

6 March 2012

I’ve tried to make more meals with lentils and beans.

It is a shame that so many people are unable to cook anything it would seem – in particular all those students going off to college unable to cook when they leave home! I recently noticed a college which does a week long cookery course specifically for them at a price but what a shame to have not learned this at home or at school! How short-sighted of us to have let this happen. They need to be able to cook something and have an idea of how to be flexible with the ingredients so that the fridge’s leftovers get used up too. (If you do this sober then you have a better chance of remembering the successful experiments!)

Neil from The Young Ones has suddenly become an amazing example of culinary skills.

They need a list of essentials to take off to uni: spaghetti measure, steamer, wooden spoon etc…

lessismore says:

6 March 2012

The info on packaging has a lot to answer for.

Every student fridge needs a print out explaining what the difference between Best Before and Use By dates is let alone all the others eg Display Until and Sell By.

It is quite ridiculous that eggs are still in the Best Before category yet have to be treated as if in a Use By date category. Also why are they not refrigerated in shops when we are expected to refrigerate them at home? If there is a permanent salmonella problem then why not change their category? What happens in the rest of Europe?

Food waste collections have helped people realise how much they are wasting. I feel that our young students are preyed on predatory drinks companies as soon as they leave the safety of home. When I was a student alcohol wasn’t so cheap, there was no credit and I had to feed and clothe myself for a small monthly amount.

Secondhand shops and freecycle and other specialist shops for books are very important and make a lot of difference as do University collections of things students no longer want at the end of term/end of the year which can be reused – instead of everything being dumped or senselessly trashed.

par ailleurs says:

6 March 2012

I’m actually comparably comfortable in retirement; not in any way wealthy but I have enough for my needs. I mostly choose the frugal options in a lot of shopping because the worst aspects of modern consumerism are simply appalling to me. Sometimes I wonder how many people complain of being hard up and hungry when they have a smartphone on contract, Sky TV and probably smoke too. Priorities are often wrong.
That said, there is clearly now an underclass at the very bottom of the heap who have no chance of surviving easily. It’s no good middle class types like me going on about the feckless in these cases as they are genuinely affected. I can choose to shop at a combination of stores and markets, paying by reward credit card and driving to different locations for the bargains. What do you do if you have no car, the bus costs a fortune, and you’re restricted to local convenience stores? Answer-you live as best you can and eat expensive food lacking in good nutrition. It’ll most likely be something that goes in the microwave as that’s the cheapest option compared with the sort of slow cooking on the hob or oven that I favour. The same people also won’t be able to access bank accounts or credit-other than shark lenders. It’s no wonder they are in trouble. The saddest thing is that I just can’t see a solution short of a revolution and that would be a two-edged sword. All suggestions welcomed!

Reality Check says:

7 March 2012

I am in the very fortunate position of being able to pay my “living” bills; gas/electric/food/fuel. I have, however, cut down enormously on eating out [I’m sorry for restaurant owners because it’s difficult for them too]. I am much more aware of food prices now but I do still buy pretty much what I want. Where I am far more conservative is buying fuel; I fill up my car, drive to work and back 5 days per week [round trip of 38 miles] and at the weekends, the car stays in the garage and I walk everywhere. I am desperately sorry for people who are having to go into savings just to survive, this is a sad indictment of our current predicament but I think we all needed a reality check on borrowings. It was just unsustainable.

ArgonautoftheSeas says:

7 March 2012

Difficult to believe one wd need to go into debt
on account of food for those on very/low wages/income OR even if
in receipt of state handouts if real frugality repeat frugality were
practised such as NOT purchasing/consuming processed foods
or ready meals (when cooking from scratch is very much cheaper),
tobacco and alcohol in any quantity AND NOT running a car
(even if a banger), have smartphone on a contract and a smart
modern large screen connected laptop.

Purchase instead at the market and greengrocers which is very
much cheaper and every bit as fresh.

There’s also always the charity shops and the car boot sale
for clothing and other household needs. And Freecycle too.

Make use of free lending library as much as possible.

Additionally, use a bicycle and save on bus and train fares,
keeps you fit as well.

Patronise the Pound or 99p shops.

Form a co op if practical for foodshare purposes.

Sometimes the upmarket supermarkets have
cheap offers worth having, look around.

Have I missed out anything? And yes, buy in
bulk if possible as to non-perishables provided it works
out really much cheaper and make sure use them
all.

John Ward says:

7 March 2012

Sadly, Argonaut, there are people who do all these things in order to economise and live frugally but they are nevertheless in debt for a range of valid reasons [like outstanding loans, credit card balances, hire purchase agreements, and the cost of heating an unmodernised property]. They might have high transport costs, and other expenses that are not offset by benefits and allowances.Many of the people who have to borrow to feed, heat and clothe themselves are elderly, or have been prevented by sickness or by accidents of history and geography, from building up a full pension entitlement. Many are living in oversized houses in poor condition and its just too easy to say they should move out and take a small flat. I agree with par ailleurs above: charges of extravagance or fecklessness are not appropriate. As a society we have to save people from descending into an undignified existence in a state of perpetual dependency and attracted by the opportunities of crime.

ArgonautoftheSeas says:

7 March 2012

John

I take the very valid points that you make.
Was not referring to those with PRE-EXISTING
LIABILITIES that wd indeed have a detrimental effect on
standard of living. Was saying one shd be able
to live on a low income with practised frugality
incorporating all of the points I’d set out.

Might have thought abt releasing the equity of
property by scheme OR selling up large expensive-to-heat
house and moving to something smaller and
cheaper to maintain, thereby having funds to enjoy
additionally.

Alternatively cd try to persuade
council to put a charge on house realisable after death
as to any debts or liabilities incurred inter vivos. Personally
and from a legal standpoint, do not see any problem
with this arrangement.

For older folks, there’s of course the
benefit of a free bus pass.

I believe there is a further safety net in the form of the
DLA or Attendance Allowance provided by the state.

Can always exhaust the inheritance!

richard says:

7 March 2012

Sorry large numbers of my OAP friends cannot afford to buy food on some days – because the rises in expenses out weigh any “benefit” given – that is why they are poverty stricken – A great many do not want to leave their homes – nor will they get much from the selling off of their property – Why should they sell it anyway – they are supposed to have a pension to live on – They paid for it for their entire lives AND supported the previous generations. If you are young – your thoughts on property may be different but for the elderly – it is the home they want to live in until they die.

A free bus pass is totally useless for people that have nowhere to go! Many OAP are in that position now – I help to run a local OAP club Do you?

richard says:

7 March 2012

Additional comment – many do not have a home to sell anyway. They could never afford one – Nor do they want charity – They want the living wage promised them in 1948.- and paid by NI contributions by them until retirement since.

ArgonautoftheSeas says:

7 March 2012

Can’t believe at all: large numbers of pensioners
are so poverty- stricken as not being able to
afford to buy food… something of an exaggeration,
I wd say.

richard says:

8 March 2012

Sorry – Unless you know a wide range of OAPs in England you can’t tell – Haven’t you read the UK newspapers recently – If your income is £106 a week and your outgoings are £95 then you have £11 a week for food – particularly if you rent.

As I have said – I help run an OAP Club in a very poor part of London – Many OAP there can no longer afford to buy proper food on a daily basis – Their state pension is insufficient.

Exactly how many UK OAPs living on state pension do you actually know?? I know a couple of 100 – and they can’t afford proper meals every day – are they actually starving?? Not yet – but it is only a matter of time.

ArgonautoftheSeas says:

7 March 2012

richard

Still on the subject of plight of older folk…

Singapore does not have a welfare system like Britain has as to there
being a safety net for all and it may be of interest to note what’s set out
under Maintenance of Parents Act hereunder:

The Act provides for Singapore residents aged 60 years old and
above, who are unable to subsist on their own, to claim maintenance
from their children who are capable of supporting them but are not
doing so. Parents can sue their children for maintenance, in the
form of monthly allowances or a lump-sum payment.

richard says:

7 March 2012

I am only interested in the attitudes of posters on here from the UK about the plight of older folk in the UK.

You see when I was young we respected the old and did help them – now too many consider the old should get out of their houses purely so the young can live in their houses – I don’t and never did – I understood the building to be a home – not a stash of cash – a home where we brought up the children and have happy memories. We used to – note the tense – have a welfare state that really supported the elderly until death – now it is until the money runs out and it disgusts me

Nikki Whiteman says:

8 March 2012

There are lots of good moneysaving tips in this thread, so thanks for sharing – Argonaut, your tip about food share co-ops – is this something you have in your area? I’m really interested in how they work and how people find them. Would love to have something similar where I live – not only saving money but avoiding waste.

Regarding poorer older people in the UK, sadly although it might sound unbelievable, there are many who have to forego food because they are struggling for money. A study by the IFS last year showed that many pensioners go without food in order to buy fuel to heat their homes: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2011/06/poorest-pensioners-buy-less-food-to-cover-heating-costs-255589/

The Singapore system you mention is interesting, but I can’t help but feel sad at the idea that people have to be forced to care for their older relatives. I used to live in Japan and there it’s quite traditional to live with three generations in a house, meaning that not only can the grandparents receive proper care and interaction with the family but they also help out with things like childcare, etc – although in our country we tend to frown upon living with our parents, I think it’s nice that it’s such an accepted part of the culture.

It’s also an excellent way to save money – I know of quite a few people who have moved back in with parents (or moved in with brothers and sisters) to cut down on costs for rent and bills. It’s often a great way to save money, even if for only a short period of time. I imagine in the recession more people will be doing this.

jamesbrown426 says:

26 July 2017

Hi I have a question regarding trying to sue the banks for the recession. I entered into an agreement to buy a two bed apartment in Italy before the financial meltdown. Upon completion of the complex the banks led us into the recession resulting in myself losing my £34,000 deposit as the banks would not lend me the remaining amount for the mortgage. I tried all the UK banks and the Italian banks but could not secure the mortgage for the rest even though I had enough income and my credit rating was 100%. Are you able to guide me in the right direction. just thought id throw this one into the mix. Yours thankfully James

John Ward says:

26 July 2017

What prevented you from getting your deposit back, James? I am perplexed that you entered into an agreement before you had all your funding in place and assured.

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