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Update: Do you support our super-complaint on scams?

Bank transfer scams

Imagine this: You’ve had some building work done on your house and you’re arranging to pay the builder. Then you receive an email from your builder informing you that their bank account details have changed…

You transfer the money to them.

Later on, you find out the email was from a fraudster.

They had made their email virtually identical to the ones that you’d received from the builders before. You’ve been scammed – and you’ve got no right to get your money back from your bank.

Bank transfer scams super-complaint

Which? is using its legal powers to make a super-complaint to one of the financial regulators – the Payment Systems Regulator (PSR). We think banks need to do more to protect customers who are tricked into transferring money to a fraudster.

Some people might well think ‘that’ll never happen to me!’ They might say that people who are scammed should simply get better at protecting themselves.

But it’s an issue that comes up time and time again, with some people getting conned out of their life savings.

You only have to read the harrowing real life stories in our super-complaint to realise that these scams are often so sophisticated that it’s impossible for people to be savvy enough to completely protect themselves. And the people being scammed are not only the stereotypical vulnerable groups; they are often financially and technologically literate.

When we asked over 1,000 members of the public if they could spot the difference between real and spoof emails, we found that 50% of people were fooled by these sophisticated scams. Ultimately, people can only protect themselves so far, and with scams on the rise, we all need greater protection.

So what do we want?

Which? thinks banks should shoulder more responsibility for money lost to bank transfer scams. It’s unfair that customers who lose money due to scams via direct debit or credit and debit cards are reimbursed, for example, but not bank transfers. This would give banks an incentive to develop better mechanisms to prevent the fraud in the first place.


 

Update: 12 October

Alex Neill, our Director of Home and Legal Services, appeared on Rip Off Britain this morning (12 October) to talk about what action is needed to protect us all from scams.

After hearing the tragic tale of a scam victim who was tricked into transferring £77,000 to scammers posing as solicitors, Alex explained how banks can and must go beyond just protecting themselves from paying out against scams.

Banks already protect their customers for credit and debit card fraud, but there’s clearly need for them to improve their security processes to protect their customers from bank transfer scams.

That’s why we’ve made our super-complaint to the Payment Systems Regulator [PSR] . If you were tricked into transferring money from your account to a scammers’ account then you have no legal right to get you money back from your bank.

The PSR now has 70 days remaining to respond to our super-complaint.

Clearly, this is a complex issue. This is why we need financial regulators – not just the PSR but also the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) – to work together and address our concerns.

What would you like to see the regulators do to help prevent fraud?

Comments
Guest
James says:
21 November 2018

Jimmy Magee
9 hrs ·
Been robbed

Went to transfer money from rbs account to my sons when my sons
Name came in I finalized the transaction but money was transferred to another account. I have never heard this name let alone put it in my transfer list. Then phoned the bank to be told that a card reader was used to add this persons account to my transfer list from my ip address all in the few seconds to finalize. So double check and wait till you see were your money goes.

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WELL IAN -WELL WHICH? you both know what I am talking about if both of you don’t come on and criticise this poster for “shouting ” then I will be seriously annoyed .
I have cut down on capitals but if Which ? doesn’t do something about this after emailing me about it ( I have it archived ) then I want a retraction from Which ? AND Ian.

Guest

Tried reporting this but your reporting webpage doesn’t work.
I have screenshot the post .

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Thank you moderators -appreciated .

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Jack says:
14 January 2019

I am constantly being inundated with texts and calls from ‘Capital One’.
Despite reporting calls this has persisted. Really frustrating nothing can be done. In the law of averages scammers must be making loads from this.

Guest

There is certainly something you can do Jack and that’s report them if they are genuinely “Capital One ” unless you have had previous dealings with them or their subsidiaries or visited their website and contacted them .
Big USA “investment” company with a branch here . The US Federal Authorities are no fools -quote-
Investment and Insurance Products Are:
Not Insured By The FDIC
Not Insured By Any Federal Government Agency
Not A Deposit Or Other Obligation Of, Or Guaranteed By, The Bank
Subject to Investment Risks, Including Possible Loss Of The Principal Amount Invested

They are “financial speculators ” Americans have a word for them but I cant post it.
Parent company-Capital One Financial Corporation.

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Eric Donkin says:
19 January 2019

The latest attempted phone scam, a robotic voice states when answering the phone ” HMRC have issued an arrest warrant for you for tax fraud, please press # to continue”
at which point I hung up (after perhaps making a pithy comment) I then 1471’ed to get 02181467484 which of course when dialed you are informed “the number you have dialed has not been recognized” all a real pain in the butt and needs dealing with

Guest

I was called today by the HMRC scammers – I didn’t pick up, but the answerphone said ‘call 2086386353 to avoid prosecution’. It was an American, and the terminology used in the message indicated that it was appropriate only for an American audience.

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Keith says:
31 January 2019

Sat in the Hospital waiting room today awaiting an appointment email came through from HMRC telling me I had a £499 tax refund , I think you know the rest , I deleted it Straight Away.

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DerekP says:
31 January 2019

Keith, good to hear you weren’t fooled by that email.

Yesterday I sent some time assisting a lady who had received and responded to a scam email about PPI refunds. She’d actually responded to the email and had then been called from a fake 0800 number, 0800 0472410. From the flow of personal and financial details that she was being asked to provide, she eventually realised that it was a scam. Hence she’d contacted all her banks and then set out to also report it via the Action Fraud website.

As someone not highly expert in internet use, she found the Action Fraud website hard to use, and even with my help, we didn’t manage to finish a report submission in the time we had available. Somehow, the scammer had seemingly also managed to delete the original email and her reply, so I was unable to grab those for further forensic analysis.

We were more successful in flagging up the fake 0800 number as “dangerous” on a couple of “who called me?” websites.

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Jacquie B says:
9 February 2019

Telephone call, with an American accent advising that BT are going to disconnect our telephone and broadband connection

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Charles says:
16 February 2019

I’ve had the same call 5 days per week over the last 5/6 weeks – we just hang up but annoying nevertheless.