What are your money-saving dishwasher tips?

Actually that’s a false economy. I’ve definitely read somewhere, and I’m quite sure it was in a Which magazine several years ago, that washing up by hand uses more water and costs more in energy than a dishwasher. It’s also considerably more effort, fails to remove invisible dirt and is less hygienic.

Other than that though its a great idea WC 🙂

Just a note of caution. I suspect the greatest values are achieved with full dishwasher loads which might take time to accumulate.

As dishwashers heat their own water [normally – see link] I would think washing a plate and a knife after breakfast could economically done from the hot tap.

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=252580

Maybe I am using more energy and water. I rinse everything thoroughly because I do not like the idea of everything being left with a film of washing-up liquid. If we took some swabs off your hands (or mine) and compared the number of bacteria with those on my hand-washed plates I can tell you which will be most contaminated.

One of my concerns with dishwashers is the small fire risk. They are often left unattended, sometimes in rooms without even a smoke alarm. Bosch recalled 600,000 machines and Hotpoint 200,000 machines to carry out modifications, but most of the owners failed to respond to the recall. I do not understand why any manufacturer should use flammable materials in construction of any kitchen appliance if non-flammable or even fire-retardant alternatives are available.

Having seen people’s efforts at washing-up by hand, I’m grateful that dishwashers are popular these days.

The joys of the Quooker the quick directed rinse with boiling water. Magic : )

NFH, Wrong, dishwashers being more economical with energy is a myth. It is based on some Euro standard which assumes that hot water is produced using a standard rate electricity tariff for both a dishwasher and when hand washing dishes.

In reality although dishwashers usually will produce their hot water on standard day rate electricity hand washed dishes usually use water produced via a home’s gas central heating system.

So given a Kwh or one unit of electricity is around 12p one Kwh or unit of mains gas is about 4p a dishwasher is only more economical if you use three times the amount of hot water handwashing. Hand washing might use more but not three times more hot water.
Even then you still need to factor in actually buying, installing and maintaining the thing, and eventually replacement the thing.

Dishwashers are not more economical than hand dish washing by a big margin.

I will accept however the myth is used and widely believed to both sell dishwashers and for the customer to justify the purchase of a dishwasher.

I am not sure how the author of this article or the Energy Trust manages to work out relative costs without knowing how water is heated, how much water costs (especially since many properties are not metered) and so on. In estimating the cost of using a dishwasher it would be relevant to factor in the cost of purchase and possible repairs, and the cost of rubber gloves for washing by hand.

wavechange, Quite correct dishwashers are not cheaper than hand washing, see the comment where I explain this above. However I can see how people prefer the convenience when there is a lot of washing up to do, but it’s no good people going all eco-friendly when advocating the use of dishwashers because it just ain’t true.

It’s not something I feel strongly about Chris. No-one has tried to persuade me that a dishwasher is more economical but if they do I will ask for evidence of how they come to that conclusion.

malcomr gets the prize for his review. My best laugh of the day!

Would you leave a dishwasher unattended? http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/11/kitchen-flames-domestic-appliances

What focused my mind was having to deal with a fire in my parents’ home. Fortunately I was there at the time and able to put out the fire before it spread.

Yes likewise for a washing machine, battery charger etc.
Yes I realise all these actions increase fire risk but I am happy with this.
Glad to hear you were at the right place at the right time for your parents.

A lot of houses nowadays have mains-pressure hot water but you rarely hear of anyone recommending connexion of dishwashers and washing machines to the hot water supply and plumbers/installers routinely connect to the cold supply. Doing a cold rinse would be complicated with this arrangement however and require a bit of nifty valve work under the sink.

If you’ve got a combination boiler you’ll probably have filled the dishwasher before the water starts running hot. All you have done is needlessly heat up the water in the boiler and pipes.

It is not uncommon for those living off-grid to do what John has mentioned to minimise the cost of generating electricity.

Nick makes an important point but a good house designer should put the boiler close to the kitchen/utility room to help minimise waste of heat.

That’s why you run the nearest hot tap first, until the water comes out hot, to ensure a warm fill. Dishwashers can rinse in warm water. I’ve never had any problems with this setup and it saves energy compared to heating cold water in the dishwasher. Plumbers and installers don’t know that the hot water supply can be used; they just “think” a dishwasher connects to the cold supply, maybe because the inlet hose isn’t coloured red?

Check your dishwasher instruction book and if you can connect the dishwasher to a hot water supply – heated by anything but electricity – then why not? This setup would be most useful for solar heated hot water.

In dishwashers an initial cold rinse prevents food being “cooked” onto items, I suspect that most of the energy used in a dishwasher is in the drying cycle, so the energy saving by using lower cost HW may not be great.

OT with washing machines most people wash at 30C so there is little to be gained by moving from cold fill only to hot and cold fill.

please insert “everyone” in line 2 after “because”.