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Should cigarettes be forced under shop counters?

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From 2012 smokers won’t be able to see cigarettes in shops, with new laws ordering that tobacco be kept under shop counters. Do you think it’s right to put cigarettes out of sight?

And, perhaps more importantly, will this put smoking out of mind?

On No Smoking Day the Department of Health confirmed that cigarettes and other tobacco products would soon be forced under shop counters in England, with Scotland, Wales and Ireland to follow.

The ban, however, has been delayed until April 2012 for large shops and supermarkets, with smaller newsagents and tobacconists following in April 2015.

Out of sight, out of mind?

Exiling ciggies under shop counters follows a raft of recent anti-smoking laws in England. Cigarette advertising was banned in 2002, smoking was outlawed from public places in 2007 and cigarette vending machines will also be prohibited later this year.

The government added that it still had an open mind as to whether to introduce plain packaging for cigarettes. However, some experts are concerned that such packets could make it easier for tobacco fraudsters to pass off their cigs as legitimate.

As far as putting tobacco out of sight, health experts have said banning cigarette displays in shops will help reduce the number of under-16s who start smoking every year – this number currently stands at 300,000.

Professor John Britton, chair of the Royal College of Physicians’ Tobacco Advisory Group, even urged the government to bring the measures forward:

‘We cannot underestimate the harm caused by smoking and urge the government to reconsider delaying the display ban.’

A ban on smokers?

But not everyone supports putting tobacco under the counter. Some groups claim that it will impose too much cost on shopkeepers. UKIP leader Nigel Farage even argues that ‘it could end up doing to corner shops what the smoking ban did to country pubs – put them to the wall.’

Mark Littlewood, director general of the Institute of Economic Affairs, responded by maintaining that the ban wouldn’t have any affect at all:

‘It is yet another heavy-handed and costly intervention by government that will hurt businesses and, as many studies have shown, will do nothing to lower smoking prevalence.’

Do you support the government’s decision to banish cigarettes and other tobacco products under shop counters? And what do you think about introducing plain cigarette packaging?

Should cigarettes be forced under shop counters?

Yes (60%, 122 Votes)

No (40%, 81 Votes)

Total Voters: 203

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Comments
Member

As far as I’m concerned – smoking should be banned outright – as it is a bad influence to all and a health hazard.

But it won’t make any difference – the vast majority of people don’t go into a shop and simply are attracted by the display. They go in wanting to buy cigarettes. People smoke because peers smoke.

Even if they were banned – all that would happen is a truly vast increase in cigarette smuggling – (around 10% of those smoked now are smuggled already)

What is required are TV programmes where the use of cigarettes is castigated. Not documentaries – but soap operas where smoking is portrayed as dangerous and anti social. At the moment and in the past – cinema and TV smoking is portrayed as something .sexy and to be copied.

I started smoking at 6 – suffered nicotine poisoning – but encouraged by friends to continue – eventually gave up at 45 – by deciding to give up one day.

Member

Perhaps not having smokers in TV programmes at all would be a better option? Actively castigating it may look a little contrived. And you started smoking at 6 years old? Talk about starting early… sorry to hear that.

Member

Patrick – castigation can be done subtly

I started smoking when conditions in my country became incredibly stressful (friends were dying in droves). Haven’t you noticed how many children smoke in war zones?

Member

Don’t force it ‘underground/counter’. Instead, whack up the tax even more on cigarettes to help fund the health service that picks up the pieces of this disgusting habit. And, if there’s anything left, a small contribution to the rest of the economy to fill one small part of the gaping hole would be quite nice too.

Member

Sorry – what will happen if prices are raised even more – is smuggling will increase – reducing the taxes to health and country.

The reason why so many cigarettes are already smuggled (10% of consumption) is because £5 for 20 is too much for some to pay. There is evidence that cigarettes are not only smuggled but actually faked. Causing even more illness.

If the price rises – more people will be robbed to pay for cigarettes – just as they are robbed now to pay for other drugs.

Only the comfortably off will be able to afford to smoke – but affordability is not the reason most people stop – they will stop if smoking is considered “uncool” – If they are expensive they will still be considered “cool” and be smoked..

Member

That’s an interesting idea Fat Sam, but as Richard says it’ll likely increase counterfeit cigarettes.

Both of you have yet to choose a side though – if you HAD to choose between cigarettes being put under shop counters or not (with no changes to anything else) what side would you come down on?

Member

Patrick – I would vote for under counter cigarettes – but it will not be effective. I know “out of sight out of mind” is an old saying – but it isn’t true.

The vast vast majority of people are introduced to smoking by peers – not displays. To go to a shop and say “20 Players Please” is no more difficult with a display than without.

Member

Australia has become the first country to implement plain and ‘no-frills’ packs for cigarettes. Good idea or bad idea? http://www.news.com.au/business/cigarette-packets-to-ugly-olive-green/story-e6frfm1i-1226035049025

Member

Anti smoking ads should show photographs of people who are dying of lung cancer, etc. A short summary of the case history would help too.

Member
Nanta says:
4 May 2011

I’m just a bit cynical of the government bringing in this law, as well as every other law and eventually encroaching on every aspect of our lives.

http://www.nosmokinglaw.co.uk/

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_England

Member
famlily of 6 smokers says:
8 March 2012

frist when will the goverment relise that there satisics are wrong? and understand that to remove something you have to replace? see ive been smoking many years and half enjoy it and half notice the health decline from smoking , but have tried giving up, but the cost for patches and inhalers are a joke £10-15 even on the free nhs sceme i was cutting my smoking down from 40 a day to 10-15 but as i never quit 100% in 6 weeks you are booted off the program which is not going to solve anyhing so im back to my 40 a day..

see to be honest they say in my area the amount off smokers has been lower but thats bull???? as i see what is happing around my work / pub including myself we all buy import tobacco at half the price of shops and the goverment think we are giving up lol another joke to where they acatlly get there statics from non smokers???

what about drink ? drink drivers underage etc is drink the next step of hiding the bottles???

im 100% for protecting our kids but thats the job of the parents , nowing what the do and go and education them whats right and wrong good and bad not simply hiding sometihng which we all know from our childhoods if something is taboo we want it more?????