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Will the government’s obesity strategy work? Fat chance!

The government’s new call to action on obesity places the food industry as the driver for slimming England’s waistlines. Is that really going to be effective? We need regulatory change, not vague half measures.

The Health Secretary, Andrew Lansley, wants the country’s calorie intake to be reduced by five billion calories a day ‘to help close the crucial imbalance between energy in and energy out’ and has decided the best way to do this is leave it to the food industry to reduce calories in their products.

So, let me get this straight – the companies that have the most to gain from us consuming more calories than we need are now the custodians of helping us to eat less?! Members of the House of Lords recently likened this arrangement to ‘letting Dracula advise on blood bank security’ and I’m afraid I have to agree.

Don’t leave it to the food industry

Industry self-regulation has proved to be a successful tactic in achieving change where legislation is an inappropriate solution to the problem. This is the case with some pollution problems where legislation can’t keep up. But you only need to look at the banking industry to see that self-regulation doesn’t always work – in fact it can prove woefully inadequate.

And it’s not that legislation’s always the solution – there are a whole range of government interventions that can be used instead. But wouldn’t a bit of leadership and direction be a good thing?

When it comes to reversing the ‘tide of obesity’, I think letting an industry that has made millions on the back of our increased addiction to high-calorie foods won’t bring about the most effective results. I’m not saying that the industry doesn’t have a role to play, its commitment to the issue is essential. Yet, when there are such obvious regulatory changes that could be made too, I don’t know why the government doesn’t try out a mix of methods.

“Ambitions” are all very well, but unless you provide tangible plans on how you can meet them, they’re just pipe dreams. The Dane’s decision to introduce a tax on foods high in saturated fat caused uproar last week. I’m not saying this is the best way to tackle obesity, but I’m sure if we had to pay more for fatty foods we’d start looking for healthier options. And at least the Danish government is taking real action on the obesity problem.

Our appetite for change

So what are the other ways to get us eating healthily? You may have noticed that calorie labelling has crept onto the menus of some food chains. At last count, 40 food outlets had voluntarily signed up, but that still leaves hundreds of chains without them. Making this compulsory for all chains would be one way the government could help.

The government could also settle the age-old confusion with front-of-pack nutrition labelling. We’ve long called for traffic lights to be used on labels so people can work out what’s in their food, yet we’re still faced with a myriad of different options depending on where you do our weekly shop or which brands you buy.

So Mr Lansley, if you’re serious about curbing the tide of obesity, you need to do more than just let the food giants decide what will work best. There are plenty of options to complement industry’s involvement, so why don’t you give them a chance? After all, isn’t that what being in government is about?


Its really down to the individual to control their calorie intake.
The information is out there for those who want it.

Its convincing those who don’t control their food intake that they need to that is the problem.

More labelling, compulsory nutritional information on all restaurants and food outlets will have an insignificant effect on the population as a whole.
However educating youngsters – calorie labelling on school meals – may well be a good long-term solution. It seems to be working for recycling – school kids seem very aware of recycling issues and do bring their awareness home.

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There is no need to highlight any one issue, everybody has an opinion on something that they don’t like someone else doing. When the government and the medical profession join in, it smacks of bullying, shifting blame and diversionary tactics from focusing on government activity to the activities of individuals. Divide and rule.

Will the next campaign be a big vice which is yours? Just leave people alone to get on with their lives without a nanny on their shoulder.

Is this really a Government initiative endorsed by the cabinet ?
Does Eric Pickles agree ??

All the political parties have completely missed the boat.

Uphold the rights of the individual and come down hard on those businesses that fail to abide. Trust me, after one or two cases, the industry will soon get the message.
It’s not just about calories, its what is going into our food chain.
We have rigorous food laws in the UK, backed up/duplicated in some areas by the EU.
What is the point of having protections in place, when businesses are able to bypass them with ease?

As I’ve posted before on these boards, an apple from the 80s and earlier, is not the same as an apple today.
Apple’s today, supermarket ones especially can be anything upto a year old before they reach the shelf. Many are grown abroad, in places without our food laws, covered in gas waxes, fed with chemicals to bloat them, etc.
Then they are shipped half way around the world (carbon emissions anyone!) chilled and stored for months, across continents, packaged in bags in the UK, and because this is considered a “major change” to the product, they are permitted to be labelled “british”

Do the government know what’s going into these apples and other foods made, grown and processed abroad?

Do I trust self regulation? Not one jot!
In every area where self regulation has been introduced, the customer loses out and ways to bypass the “regulation” are used, which isnt hard, as the same businesses are setting the rules….
If the minister wants an example, next time he’s in the supermarket, read the back of a tin of hotdogs;
MRM (mechanically reclaimed meat – ie, guts ears veins, everything you WOULDN’T eat, etc) has seen a dramatic rewording in recents months as the products on the shelf have had packaging changes.

I read about a high street “bakers” (I use that term loosely) a few months ago, who had their sausage rolls examined, and were found to contain less than 14% sausage meat, the excuse given was to keep costs down and allow cheaper food for people.
Is it good for obesity or our food chain for thousands of people to be eating a sausage roll everyday, where 86% of its ingredients are unknown or require lab tests to find out whats in them?

Give powers back to the food standards agency, uphold our own food laws (so that our own MPs can be accountable for the job) protecting the individual, businesses have shown they cannot be trusted.
Hit the problem at source, ie, before it gets to the supermarket shelf or the restaurant plate, the NHS, our health and the nations pockets will be alot better for doing so.

I agree James Whale on LBC [ 4 pm ] had good discussions on this last week at George Galloway on talksport [ friday 10pm] . The labelling is ridiculous often too complicated & can’t be read as type too small. Discovered from my urologist over 14 tspns of sugar in cranberry juice- – let alone fizzy drinks.Laws & taxes need to restrict use of chemicals,hormones, transfats & additives.As well as advertising Anyone of any intelligence must know it is not quite so simple as if you have many health problems such as hormones& allergies obesity come with it as can’t exercise.What comes first chicken or the egg?

Always so ironic when someone bemoans a lack of intelligence and then gives the chicken and egg cliche.

If the theory of evolution is anything to go by, the egg came first 😉

I generally agree with your opinion though 🙂

I don’t think that regulation will work, though it would help, unless this cuts down portion sizes for ready meals, restaurants and fast food outlets.

What could work is television advertising that shows complications of type 2 diabetes, which is linked to the increase in obesity. It would not be very pleasant for those who have diabetes through no fault of their own, but could demonstrate the need for good control of the condition, whatever the cause.

Could it be the case that many chemicals added to our food chain, when they are grown/processed outside of UK food laws are increasing the cases of diabetes? Could this in turn, be adding to the cases of obesity?

Businesses told us that food grown/processed abroad was to keep costs down, despite food prices rocketing.
I remember the problems with eggs we had from european imports recently, is there really any need to import so many egg yolks to be used in ready meals? How can our food regulations be upheld and do the job they were set up to do, if there are so many blatent avoidances?

What is disappointing me the most is the failure by all MPs and their committees, to spot what ever man and his dog can see, that by tackling issues in food chain supply, will save millions for the NHS in reduced cases and costs, resulting in a better quality of life for more people. This is exactly what we elect them to do!

I’m sure that I have read that over-feeding of lab animals induces obesity.

We know little about the effects of food additives and processing, and whether these could encourage the onset of diabetes.

Over the years we have paid little attention to the health hazards of traditional methods of food preservation and cooking. For example, curing ham uses nitrites that can produce nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic. High temperature cooking (frying and grilling) produce various carcinogens.

I think we need to pay a lot more attention to food, where it comes from, how it is processed and how it is cooked.

Sorry, the first line should read: I’m sure that over-feeding of lab animals induces obesity and type 2 diabetes.

Err, so what?

Why don’t we just go the whole hog and say “humans cost the NHS x pounds each year”??

Traffic, sport, exercise, viruses, accidents, lawsuits, smoking, stress, depression, etc etc etc all have a net cost to the NHS, but this is what we pay taxes for.

Unless you know the medical history of each individual case, statements like this are the laziest form of reporting going. Considering NHS money is ring-fenced, how on earth does this affect the economy?

I wasn’t referring to saving money for the economy.

Protecting our food chain is a win-win.
Less disease, less carbon emissions, better quality of life for people and the money saved, would be used in other areas of the NHS, maybe buy more scanning equipment etc?

As you correctly point out, the NHS funding is ring fenced, savings would benefit other areas of care and people’s lives.

I wasn’t replying to you, I concur with your point about cleaning up the food chain

I was referring to the frankly absurd claim of “Treating obesity already costs the NHS £5bn each year.”

Frankly, last week was an attack on the home-bound computer geek, it seemingly continues ad nauseum this week.

Am I the only one who thinks the dinner in that picture looks quite appetising?
Can’t stand health fascism, as you can probably deduce 🙂

I object to you taking on board the right wing nasty thinking which is discrimination . Not all obesity is due to greed if you impregnate food with addictive chemicals & leave undiagnosed rare genetic conditions no wonder.All you will cause is lack of access as we are seeing now from the corporate . I have had it said by a Doctor ” There were no fat persons in Belsen ” I replied they would have been first in the Chambers to be exterminate I am ashamed of society’s mean attitude not thinking out of box.

Dave says:
18 October 2011

There is great concern in medical circles that the obesity epidemic is a real threat to the continuation of the NHS free when needed. The resulting predicted increase in pathology may overwhelm the system. The diseases include : type 2 diabetes, raised blood pressure, coronary artery disease ( heart attacks, angina,heart failure) strokes and non- alcoholic fatty liver disease, all occuring at an earlier age than hitherto, . No wonder the polititions are having another “reorganisation”.which contains the seeds of paying upfront.This is logicical way forwards if a large fraction of the population has lost control of its appetite.

Hogwash, pure anecdotal rubbish.

Consider when the NHS was at its inception, remind me of what the life expectancy was around then.

Consider how many more people live in this country since then, but mainly, consider how many extra taxes are paid each year by these people that live here and deserve a right to free treatment.

Besides I would like to see your evidence for “there is great concern in medical circles”, who? where? paid for by whom?

For example, I could say that there is great concern amongst psychological circles that people with the name Dave are complete and total bores.

Stop using fat people as a scapegoat for all your misconceptions about society, its prejudiced and shouldn’t be allowed on a public forum…..